Talk:Dogma

See the image over on the right. --MysterymasterX (talk) 07:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

If you wish to discuss the vocals, please head over to this page. Thank You! --Gonna Use a Persona! (talk) 12:21, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Unused Dogma Attacks?
Yo i just found something weird. open up the debug console and spawn entities "950.10" and "1000.171". A Dogma Angel baby and a Dogma Blackhole. Are these unused attacks? MysterymasterX (talk) 03:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Miscellaneous
Can the vocals be somewhere on this website? should we put them here on some living_in_the_light(vocals) page?

.....You know what? "I am just going to make my own, better [wiki page].. with blackjack, and hookers!

--Beanstewoo (talk) 17:22, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Could someone make a gallery? I tried but all the images ended up super low quality and i'm not sure why.

It would be really helpful to see any and all achievements/unlocks associated with this boss e.g. if Isaac kills Dogma ___ is unlocked.
 * Already done. If you're not seeing any, that's because there are none. The achivements are only for the secret chars/The Beast. --Frionil (talk) 23:04, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

--Eugengrau (talk) 20:55, 22 April 2021 (BRT)

Can someone test a theory? Try using the Bible while in Dogma's fight, to see if it has any special effects on the fight itself or the enemy.

Bumbo Glitch
I just saw Bumbo get stuck attacking the TV after it died, he wouldn't move anymore. Does this happen with Meat Boy or other attacking Familiars? --Dwedit (talk) 21:31, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Tested several others (meat boy, pinking shears, leech) and it's only Bumbo being a dumbo. --Frionil (talk) 21:48, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

False Prophet Theory
I'm debating removing the part in "trivia" that reads: ""One of such interpretations by theologists is that the Second Beast is an incarnation of the False Prophet - further evidenced by the Book of Revelation chapter 13 versicle 14, in which the Beast from the Earth is described as a deceiver. The fact that Isaac perceives himself as sinful (Ending 13 and Ending 16) proves that the "Christian broadcasts" convinced him of being impure. Mom's abusive portrayal is also a consequence of her seemingly blind faith in dubious televangelists. This theory is further evidenced by the fact that Dogma directly precedes The Beast, fitting the theology hypothesis that "(the false prophet) purpose is to promote the authority of The First Beast with the ability to perform great signs, even making fire come down out of Heaven". When Isaac defeats Dogma, a giant cross can be seen crushing the protagonist. A final piece of evidence is that Dogma is protected by the television to which it is attached, said television works similarly to the Bishop enemy. Bishops are appointed members of the Christian clergy responsible for government and teaching the Bible to the common people, finally paralleling the sanctity of Dogma as dependent on the sanctity of the television's prophecies, which are perceived as harmful throughout the game. In the Epilogue Ending, Isaac draws a story in which Mom's wrongful beliefs are defeated by the Bible."" It's really long, and people already understand the idea that it might represent the second beast after reading the line that comes before this entire thing. It's huge and unnecessary. MysterymasterX (talk) 04:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)


 * • Well sure, but that is the proof gathered that gives substance to that theory, if you take it out it will just become some weird theory without any explanation. Eugengrau (talk) 20:55, 22 April 2021 (BRT)

22nd of april, how the hell did you respond before i made my post? anyways, my point is that it's a giant text wall. Also, people can do a little googling and find out the potential connection, it doesn't need to be explicitly stated there unless its confirmed to be true. MysterymasterX (talk) 22:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Does effects stay for the next fights ?
Hey guys, I'm wondering each time, if you have an effect that last for the current room, like let's say damage bonus, will it remain after Dogma for the fights against Ultra Harbingers and then The Beast ? As the stats are hidden for these fights, I could never figure it out. -Bethrezen42 (talk) 23:31, 19 June 2021 (UTC)